Curse

You can't see me · Mar 13, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

It's a simple request, really.

We all know that getting a group together can sometimes take a while, and life may call someone away from the computer, but when that person has heros in the group, and someone else drops by, it can be very annoying. All I'm requesting is to give the party leader the right to kick heros. I don't think it's much to ask, and would make grouping a little more convenient, which, of course, doesn't hurt anyone at all.

Thanks.

Dem Babyz Iz Mine · Mar 13, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Yeah, but then that takes away some of the team aspect. If one person's not kicking their heroes, they really shouldn't be on the team if they aren't listening to what other people are telling them. Be better off just kicking them and, by extension, their heroes.

freaky naughty · Mar 13, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

/SIGNED, I hate it when some nub refuses to lose his heroes when it's obvious he hasn't played the game for more than five minutes.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 13, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

sorry last thing i need is another pug kicking my heros for favor of his crappy ones. and yes i have seen this happen too many times a wammo group leader wants only his heros and they are terribad.
a sf monk with met shower and wards
a woh ele with no fire skills and nothing put into the energy storage attribute
i can't remember the third hero.
he called his heros pro and couldn't figure out why we kept wiping on a the squid boss at the end of the cavalon mission
/unsigned since most of the people calling for goups are the really crappy pugs who think that mending is better than obby tanks<_< or even an obby tank using really crappy heros.

You can't see me · Mar 13, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

sorry last thing i need is another pug kicking my heros for favor of his crappy ones. and yes i have seen this happen too many times a wammo group leader wants only his heros and they are terribad.
a sf monk with met shower and wards
a woh ele with no fire skills and nothing put into the energy storage attribute
i can't remember the third hero.
he called his heros pro and couldn't figure out why we kept wiping on a the squid boss at the end of the cavalon mission
/unsigned since most of the people calling for goups are the really crappy pugs who think that mending is better than obby tanks<_< or even an obby tank using really crappy heros.

The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 13, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

hmm mayby but if someone is afk i dont think you would be going with them. There are reasons that PUGway died hard and it wasn't just heros it died back in factions actually if you ask me. After we got some semi competent henchmen most people just Henchwayd factions with out people than got a group for the last 2 missions.

Dem Babyz Iz Mine · Mar 13, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.

I don't see why that would possibly be a problem...If that one person is afk, the party leader has control over kicking that person. And, like I said before, kick the person you get the heroes.

You can't see me · Mar 13, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

People have to, and probably should, use the bathroom before starting something. There's no reason not to group with them, but the hero situation is still annoying. It's one of the many cases.

Kanyatta · Mar 13, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

You can't assume everyone who is a party leader is going to be an experienced, mature, benevolent player. There would be so much abuse for this feature. I can see it now "Zomg, get rid of that dragon slash koss, my mending + vigorous spirit + flourish bar is sooooo much better n00b!!!!"

In order for this to work, there would have to be some quiz you'd have to take before being able to be a party leader.

You can't see me · Mar 13, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.

There you go, Kanyetta.

freaky naughty · Mar 13, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

You can't assume everyone who is a party leader is going to be an experienced, mature, benevolent player. There would be so much abuse for this feature. I can see it now "Zomg, get rid of that dragon slash koss, my mending + vigorous spirit + flourish bar is sooooo much better n00b!!!!"

In order for this to work, there would have to be some quiz you'd have to take before being able to be a party leader.

Ummmm would you stay even if he couldn't kick your heroes? An echo mending wammo isn't a good thing and you should probably leave anyways.

MisterB · Mar 13, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Not needed.
Party leader can just kick the controlling player, and then the heroes are gone, too.

Oh, and heroes fail at Dragon Slash. Warrior heroes are sketchy at tactics and positioning, and don't know how to use adrenaline.

edit: after kicking the controlling player, just invite them to your party again, and don't let them join with their heroes, or just fill your party so you only have one free slot

Ctb · Mar 13, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

I could go either way on this. On the one hand, it's only common sense that the party leader has final say over who's in the party. On the other hand, you can always just kick the guy who should have kicked his heroes.

I see where you're coming from though. You're in a group and one of the members has heroes, as per the current plan, goes AFK for a bit, and in the meantime you find some other people you'd rather have than the heroes. They're gone, you can't kick the heroes, and now you lose the other players who go to another team. Annoying.

Siirius Black · Mar 13, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

/Not Signed.
If this is implemented I can forsee major abuse.
If someone wants to keep their heroes, just kick him out of the group and get someone else.

Kanyatta · Mar 13, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.

How will the server know if the player is AFK or if it is just a party leader abusing the feature? There's really no way to police it. Although, I really don't roll with heroes too often, so I don't know what they can and can't do anymore, it was just an example, don't chew me out for it. I never play with real people in PvE personally, but still, not everyone is as kind and caring as you are.

You can't see me · Mar 13, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

What does the server have to do with any of this? Of course there's no way to police it. Again, that's why you don't go with groups with leaders that are terrible. In fact, this happens to me mostly when guild grouping. Someone has to go to the bathroom, we're not sure of the turnout, there are heros, someone else shows up, spots are taken.

If your party leader is abusing the feature and you can't live with his builds, then leave, since he'll most likely fail anyway.

Kanyatta · Mar 13, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I don't know? Maybe someone wants to get a group in The Wilds and doesn't want to hero/hench, and at any given moment there's only 9 or 10 people there, so they don't have much of a choice. Maybe their guildless? Like I said, I don't PvE with real people anyway, because most anyone can hero/hench through the whole game, including HM.

wanmoke · Mar 13, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

If you're unsure of the turnout, you can ask everyone to just drop their heroes until you're reasonably sure everyone who's coming is in the group.

/signed anyway because I've had the same situation happen. >.>

Miska Bow · Mar 13, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Just kick the player. In the few times that i did get in a PuG, I never went in a group with my heroes (i consider it a bad GW manner), and the few times they were used, it was for a lack of player to fill the role needed AND ONLY after someone suggested it.

Tarun · Mar 13, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

/signed here